Aristotle's "Politics": Second Edition
A**R
Aristotle's Politics - Carnes Lord's second edition most recommendable
Readers of Aristotle in English now have three very serviceable translations of the Politics - this second edition by Carnes Lord, Joe Sachs, and Peter L. Phillips Simpson. Barker's older Oxford translation should also be mentioned although it is not as literal as the others.They all have useful features apart from the translation itself to recommend them over say the Penguin translation. On balance, I would prefer Lord's second edition as he has tightened up translations throughout the work to make them more strictly literal beginning with "community" in place of "partnership" in the very first sentence of the book. Further, he has a very interesting introduction, excellent footnotes and glossary. It has to be said that both Sachs and Simpson have very useful analytical outlines and notes as well. Simpson's English is the most pleasant to read and has student friendly chapter headings and chapter introductions albeit non-authorial of course.The format of Carnes Lord's second edition has been made uniform to its University of Chicago Press twin "Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics" translated by Robert Bartlett and Susan Collins but, unlike the later, it is without an interpretative essay which would have been most welcome. The natural appendix to the Politics is the Poetics ably translated by Seth Benardete and Michael Davis as "Aristotle On Poetics" under St. Augustine's Press. As of 2013, all three are highly recommendable as the best scholarly translations of these three works.One can only hope some enterprising scholar will now provide avid Aristotelians with a literal translation of Aristotle's "Rhetoric" to complete the series of his "philosophy of things human". [N.B.: This has now been done with Robert C. Bartlett's translation, "Aristotle's Art of Rhetoric".]As an addendum, the student of "Aristotle's Politics" would find in "Aristotle's Teaching in the Politics" by Thomas Pangle a good companion interpretation.
A**N
The present edition by Carnes Lord includes an excellent translation and introduction with helpful endnotes regarding the meanin
I initially read Sir Ernest Barker's translation of Aristotle's Politics in 1965. The present edition by Carnes Lord includes an excellent translation and introduction with helpful endnotes regarding the meaning of important Greek terms, relevant ancient history, alternative translations, and variations in the manuscript sources. As for Aristotle's work itself, one finds many objectionable things (slavery, the inferior role of women typical of ancient Athenian society, the also typical incorporation of the religious priesthood into the government of the polis, the limitations of citizenship, and so forth) as well as some important insights. Ever the empiricist, Aristotle discusses at great length the many varieties of government that the Greeks and others had created during and before his era. All in all, it is quite a puzzling picture for us denizens of the twenty-first century. The five-star rating is for the editorial and translation work of the subject edition. It is impossible to rate Aristotle himself, but the fact that his work has survived for more than two millennia is itself an indication that we can still learn from him, even while disagreeing with some of his apparent teachings. In this connection, no less a democrat than Thomas Jefferson wrote, with regard to the Declaration of Independence (which he substantially authored), that "[a]ll its authority rests then on the harmonizing sentiments of the day, whether expressed in conversation, in letters, printed essays, or in the elementary books of public right, as Aristotle, Cicero, Locke, Sidney, &c." Thomas Jefferson to Henry Lee, May 8, 1825, in Thomas Jefferson: Writings, ed. Merrill D. Peterson (New York: Library of America, 1984), 1501. Many historians and political scientists also attribute certain aspects of the U.S. Constitution (especially the mixed nature of the republican framework) to Aristotle's Politics. Aristotle is not the last word, but his contribution to political philosophy should not be ignored.As another reviewer mentioned, the translation by Joe Sachs is also very good, though I have not read the entirety of it.
K**.
Good translation and good notes
East to read and the notes on history and language and excellent !
D**N
Very Good
This is a very good translation and it works better than many Kindle books. for example, you can can easily go back and forth to footnotes. However, some of the usual Kindle technical problems are in evidence. While the table of contents allows you to choose an individual book of the Politics, for example, you cannot go to an individual chapter within that book without a lot of scrolling. Kindle users should complain-- this should be fixable and it limits the usefulness of the book for scholars.
W**O
Politics, second edition
The first edition was very good; this one is excellent. The translation is literal, the introduction is helpful, and the presentation is better than the first edition.
O**Y
Must Read
Whether you are into politics are just Joe the Plummer, you must read this classic statement because it is so different from our everyday assumptions. Aristotle shows why human beings are incomplete--not human, deformed, unable to really flourish--without community. And that means all of the assumptions of capitalism and neoliberalism are challenged.
S**S
a superior index, footnotes instead of endnotes
Longer, more in depth introduction, a superior index, footnotes instead of endnotes, and superior typography make this the edition to get. The translation is significantly altered from the first edition, so having both can give you an idea of the various ways Politics cans be translated while still being literal.
M**2
Classic
If you're doing a deep dive into the history of politics, you may want this on your list. Fundamental concepts such as types of political regimes and the defintion of a "citizen" are discussed. There are many more contemporary resources which do a better job of breaking down these concepts but this is the "grandaddy" and worth a read even if it is just for historical reference.
Trustpilot
2 weeks ago
4 days ago